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Pieathalon 2023 – The Lie of Hot Fudge Pie

This year’s challenge was to make Dr. Bobb’s mother’s “Hot Fudge Pie”. Now, I love me some Dr. Bobb. Which is why I’m loathe to tell him that I suspect his childhood was filled with lies. I’m sure his mamma meant well, but hoodwinking a young boy into thinking a brownie was a pie seems unnaturally cruel. Perhaps it is this bed of lies that has spawned his obsession with vintage recipes and his torment of his poor husband who he has taste test his creations. Alas, I’m sorry to rip off the rose-coloured glasses of your youth, Bobb, but this ain’t no pie.

To be fair, Bobb’s isn’t the only lie-filled childhood. My mother, who couldn’t cook to save a life, tried repeatedly in the 1970s to trick my sister and me into eating carob treats claiming they were chocolate. My grandmother destroyed everything else by substituting tofu for something in every recipe.

A little nonsense from Grandma’s recipe box of horrors.

Yeah, I’ve got major trust issues. But that’s a story for another post. Back to the great Pie Lie – Hot Fudge Pie.

Instructions were simple enough and the “pie” baked up nicely. It was tasty – and my husband enjoyed it with some vanilla ice cream as Bobb’s mom recommended. But the texture and consistency of the finished product was that of a brownie and the use of the pie pan was really the only thing that made this a “pie”.

One fun tidbit from Bobb’s notes is that it seems the fine folks at Baker’s (whose chocolate is one of the ingredients) have been trying to bamboozle the public with changes to their packaging, which is causing recipe confusion around the world.

Everything is a lie in the end. Everything. Even pie.


Links to other Pieathletes:
Grannie Pantries
Dr. Bobb’s Kitschen
A Book of Cookrye
Dinner is Served 1972
Silver Screen Suppers
Retro Food for Modern Times
The Nostalgic Cook
Culinary Cam

Pumpkin-Apple Pie

Pastry for single-crust pie (see Divider Card No. 20)
½ cup packed brown sugar
½ cup water
2 tablespoons butter or margarine
1 tablespoon cornstarch
1 teaspoon ground cinnamon
¼ teaspoon salt
4 cups sliced, peeled cooking apples
1 tablespoon lemon juice
1 slightly beaten egg
1 cup canned pumpkin
½ cup granulated sugar
½ teaspoon ground ginger
¼ teaspoon salt
⅛ teaspoon ground cloves
1 5⅓ ounce can (⅔ cups) evaporated milk
Unsweetened whipped cream

Prepare and roll out pastry. Line a 9-inch pie plate. Flute edge high; do not prick. Bake in 450° oven for 5 minutes. Cool.

For filling, in medium saucepan combine brown sugar, water, butter or margarine, cornstarch, cinnamon, and 1/4 teaspoon salt. Cook and stir over medium heat till mixture comes to boiling. Stir in sliced apples. Cover and cook over medium heat for 5 to 6 minutes or till apples are crisp-tender, stirring occasionally. Remove from heat; stir in lemon juice. Spread the hot apple mixture evenly in the bottom of the partially baked pastry shell.

In mixing bowl combine egg, pumpkin, granulated sugar, ginger, the remaining 1/4 teaspoon salt, and cloves; mix well. Stir in evaporated milk. Carefully pour pumpkin mixture over apples. To prevent over browning, cover edge of pie with foil. Bake in 375° oven for 20 minutes. Remove foil; bake for 20 to 25 minutes more or till knife inserted off-center comes out clean. Cool pie thoroughly on rack. Serve with whipped cream. Cover; chill to store.


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Veal, Ham and Tongue Pie

Hot water crust pastry
1½ pounds plain flour
2 level teaspoons salt
½ pound lard
½ pint water

Filling
¾ pound breast of veal
¾ pound gammon
¾ pound cooked tongue
½ Spanish onion, finely chopped
Thyme
Marjoram
Chopped fresh tarragon
Chopped fresh parsley
Salt and freshly ground black pepper
3 hard-boiled eggs

Garnish
Beaten egg
Aspic jelly

Hot water crust pastry: Sift flour and salt into a large mixing bowl. Melt the lard and water in a saucepan, and bring to a boil. Remove from heat. Add to the dry ingredients and mix quickly to a soft, pliable dough. Line a rectangular pie mould with two-thirds of the dough, pressing it well down into the corners.

Filling: Cut the veal, gammon and cooked tongue into cubes, and mix with finely chopped Spanish onion and generous amounts of thyme, marjoram and chopped fresh tarragon and parsley. Season to taste with salt and freshly ground black pepper. Half-fill the mould with the meat and herb mixture; arrange hard-boiled eggs on top and then fill mould with the remaining meat and herb mixture.

Roll out remaining pastry and cover the top of the pie, pressing edges well together. Trim edges and decorate with “leaves” cut from pastry trimmings. Brush with beaten egg; make three small holes in the pastry lid for the steam to escape, and bake in a fairly hot oven (425° – M6) for ½ hour. Then reduce heat to 375° – M4 and cooked for a further 1¼ hours. (If top becomes too brown, cover with a sheet of aluminium foil.) Allow pie to become quite cold. Remove rectangular pie mould and pour liquid aspic jelly (cool) through the holes in the pastry with the aid of a paper funnel. Leave pie overnight before cutting.


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